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Mellijelli
27-04-2010, 08:54
So im reading the news articles here and there and i came across this really funny and very interesting article about Tesco The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2949096/Store-giant-to-build-mini-villages.html) do yourself a fav and read this :D

Im only going to paste a little piece of the news clip here:

Every little helps.

However, the superstore's latest move has been slammed by Left wing think-tank The New Economics Foundation (NEF).

NEF researcher Josh Ryan-Collins claimed Tesco could soon be more powerful than the GOVERNMENT given the personal information it would hold. He said: "The one way supermarkets can ensure they get planning permission is to offer these sweeteners. It has got to the point where someone needs to make a decision about how far they're prepared to let Tesco go."

Well all ill say is i think Tesco has come up with some brilliant ideas of late, and they are creating work all over the place, new stores, now homes, libraries and a civic centre, this village idea sounds really cool, and there will be construction jobs, retail jobs (http://www.careersandjobsuk.com/retail-jobs) you name it, its a hell of a lot better than what anyone else has come up with so far and at least they are trying right?, they have innovative ideas on how to keep their franchise going and going and i just think this is fantastic, not sure what the rest of you think?? Tesco for President anyone?? :D

m8internet
27-04-2010, 17:38
What a load of TOSH
Has anyone ever applied to TESCO for a copy of their personal data?

Well I have and it is actually pathetic and not as invasive as I thought it might be
It does NOT list every item I buy, nor does it list even my typical shopping pattern
Equally, it doesn't even list what I have spent!

All it does list is what my typical type of shopping is
Even some of the data was slightly incorrect, as it is based on what you buy, not about YOU
For example
Weekly shop spend : £17 (based on last 6 months, excluding petrol station)
Weekly number of visits : 2.1 (based on last 6 months, excluding petrol station)
Shopper category : "Single person - budget items, typically two visits per week"
"Is this person tea total - NO"
It came to that answer as I buy alcohol for OTHER people!

It was the best £10 I ever spent, I laughed a "little bit more"

Mellijelli
28-04-2010, 06:18
Hahahaha m8internet, does this not say to you how pathetic people seem to think the government is, that they would even be threatened by the thought of Tesco taking over government? :D:D:D.

I never knew you could get a copy of your spending data at a store??, im almost certain its not done in my country. never heard of such a thing quite honestly... im really starting to think the UK is the best place to immigrate to someday when i retire :).

m8internet
28-04-2010, 08:14
I never knew you could get a copy of your spending data at a store?
We have a thing called "The Data Protection Act"
This means that any company that records "personal data" has to make it available on request (although they may charge a fee)

Sometimes the data held is pointless, it's nothing more than name, address, and DoB
Equally, with loyalty cards the data may include shopping
However, that is only as accurate as the shopping history and may not accurately reflect that person, as I found when I looked at mine
Yes, I typically spend £17 per shop, twice a week
However, several times a year I have relatives with me or hand over my loyalty card as they do not have one

I have also made several such applications to police forces (not be confused with a FOI)
Again, this only relates to specifics and the data entered

One other consideration is that there is NO time limit on how long that data can be held, which is why I find such applications to the police useful (as criminal records "expire" after a period of time)

I have also made some FOI requests, but as yet never been charged for one
The trick there is to be specific about what information you want
These apply to government agencies, not private companies

SallyA
30-04-2010, 15:48
We have a thing called "The Data Protection Act"
This means that any company that records "personal data" has to make it available on request (although they may charge a fee)

Sometimes the data held is pointless, it's nothing more than name, address, and DoB
Equally, with loyalty cards the data may include shopping
However, that is only as accurate as the shopping history and may not accurately reflect that person, as I found when I looked at mine
Yes, I typically spend £17 per shop, twice a week
However, several times a year I have relatives with me or hand over my loyalty card as they do not have one

I have also made several such applications to police forces (not be confused with a FOI)
Again, this only relates to specifics and the data entered

One other consideration is that there is NO time limit on how long that data can be held, which is why I find such applications to the police useful (as criminal records "expire" after a period of time)

I have also made some FOI requests, but as yet never been charged for one
The trick there is to be specific about what information you want
These apply to government agencies, not private companies

Wow that is all very interesting and I am even tempted to get out there and see what I can get on myself hehe! You never do know do you?

LOL

m8internet
30-04-2010, 17:46
Sometimes it is more hassle than it is worth trying to find out
Most of the DPA and FOI requests I make are simply to get information that initially is refused or the information supplied is inaccruate, incorrect, or incomplete

A good example was a few years ago where I wanted to know about a specific Police car
All I knew was the date and location
Initially the police force refused to release any information, with the reason given that it was held under the Data Protection Act
I argued the case that a date and location cannot be witheld under the Data Protection Act, and they conceded that point, to which they supplied the vehicle information (registration number, make, and model type) for that date and location I had supplied
Armed with that I then made a FOI request specific for that vehicle, requesting its entire "maintenance history" since acquisition
This came back that the vehicle had not been "maintained" at any time in the period I supplied!
I then resent the request, requesting the "maintenance history and records"
This came back with a copy of the maintenance cards, albeit names, signatures, and what I assume were costs, had been blanked out
All this to simply prove that the car was on the road when it should not have been!

JZK100K
30-04-2010, 22:28
So im reading the news articles here and there and i came across this really funny and very interesting article about Tesco The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2949096/Store-giant-to-build-mini-villages.html) do yourself a fav and read this :D

Im only going to paste a little piece of the news clip here:

Every little helps.

However, the superstore's latest move has been slammed by Left wing think-tank The New Economics Foundation (NEF).

NEF researcher Josh Ryan-Collins claimed Tesco could soon be more powerful than the GOVERNMENT given the personal information it would hold. He said: "The one way supermarkets can ensure they get planning permission is to offer these sweeteners. It has got to the point where someone needs to make a decision about how far they're prepared to let Tesco go."

Well all ill say is i think Tesco has come up with some brilliant ideas of late, and they are creating work all over the place, new stores, now homes, libraries and a civic centre, this village idea sounds really cool, and there will be construction jobs, retail jobs (http://www.careersandjobsuk.com/retail-jobs) you name it, its a hell of a lot better than what anyone else has come up with so far and at least they are trying right?, they have innovative ideas on how to keep their franchise going and going and i just think this is fantastic, not sure what the rest of you think?? Tesco for President anyone?? :D



Gr8 find.

Funny how they are taking over the world!

http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/forum/general-wholesale-discussion/84245-tesco-taking-over-world-they-now-ebay.html

Mellijelli
04-05-2010, 07:53
JZK100K :D


Gr8 find.

Funny how they are taking over the world!

Some people seem to think so, its really quite funny :rolleyes:


Wow that is all very interesting and I am even tempted to get out there and see what I can get on myself hehe! You never do know do you?


SallyA id like to do the same but we dont have such options where i live, pity as im a curious kitty most days and id have liked to just have a peak.

Dark Phoenyx
05-05-2010, 06:18
I think ill side with m8internet on this one. People still have a right to privacy, so it limits wot stores actually can keep stock of on you. If they knew every little detail abt you right down to wot you had for breakfast, then theyd have an uprising on their hands. I think the only justifiable part of tesco that should have any in depth knowledge of you is their banking division.

Mellijelli
05-05-2010, 07:32
Dont you think Phoenyx that its actually quite cleaver of them to have this kind of system?, if i think about it they could use it to see what products sell the most and what goods people buy daily, weekly and monthly, this way they can regulate what stock they get in, what moves and what does'nt, what they need to order more of and what they need to get less off, i mean what other reason would they want to keep such a system for if not for that? I do think its rather smart.

rosszero
05-05-2010, 15:28
Dont you think Phoenyx that its actually quite cleaver of them to have this kind of system?, if i think about it they could use it to see what products sell the most and what goods people buy daily, weekly and monthly, this way they can regulate what stock they get in, what moves and what does'nt, what they need to order more of and what they need to get less off, i mean what other reason would they want to keep such a system for if not for that? I do think its rather smart.

Good point, I hadn't considered they could use it to know what their stock levels should be. The first, main assumption that came to mind was they use it to know what products to aim their discount vouchers at.

Dark Phoenyx
06-05-2010, 06:34
look that i can agree with. but you dont have to keep a personal record of the person. you could do that with regular stock takes and receipts etc. I mean even cashiers no wot they sell the most.

Mellijelli
06-05-2010, 07:05
To quote m8internet


Even some of the data was slightly incorrect, as it is based on what you buy, not about YOU

Just your date of birth, address and name, this could be for things like sending adverts in the post, vouchers for customers, specials put out and so on, most places you buy from on credit or have an account with do this type of thing, some send me stuff like discounts on items if you spend over a certain amount on goods in the store, or free gifts if ur a valued customer and so on.

The data base records kept could be used in conjunction with stocktaking, would make it a little easier i think too, although not that accurate they will still have an idea of whats going on as far as their sales go.