The parties and their promises on jobs

[Mellijelli]

So if anyone is interested here is the lowdown on how the policies of the three main political parties could effect the recruitment industry: Recuiter (http://www.recruiter.co.uk/the-parties-and-their-promises-on-jobs/1005231.article).

Each of the three main UK political parties say respectively that they have the best plan to support the economic recovery, aid job creation and sort the record fiscal deficit .

Anyway i had a quick look at what they had to say and Labour and the Liberal Democrats have decided against action to cut the fiscal deficit in 2010-11 while the economy remains weak.

On the other hand the Conservatives want to forge ahead immediately with £6bn of public spending cuts, having identified scope for £12bn of public sector efficiency savings, including restrictions on public sector recruitment. Tightening the public purse strings looks risky at such an early phase in the economic cycle and could well result in higher unemployment later this year, what more jobs (www.http://careersandjobsuk.com/) going then?

The Conservatives are saying that they promise to reduce by half the hike in employers’ National Insurance Contributions which a re-elected Labour government would introduce in April 2011 - a welcome move by the Conservatives that would support hiring again as soon as the economy improves.

Assuming that deficit reduction will be mainly brought about by spending cuts rather than higher taxes the likelihood, therefore, is that the squeeze on spending will be considerably greater than any of the parties is prepared to admit to this side of 6 May.

What you think guys? and if i may be so bold as to ask has anyone made up their minds as to which party they will be voting for in May and why?

[m8internet]

I live in Scotland...
I have known for some time how I am going to vote, no change for at least 20 years

I vote according to what type of election it is
In the General, Scottish Parliamentary, and local elections I vote quite differently

My main issue is I want someone in Westminster representing me
My previous MP was very poor (Labour) and therefore used a different MP (SNP) to represent me (cough, actually a relative)
Thankfully my local MP has now retired, but have yet to receive ANY information from the replacement Labour candidate

To make it worse, the Scottish diddler-fiddler has interfered so that the BBC TV coverage of the media debate may not be shown on BBC Scotland
Just as well I am on Virgin Media, as I can watch BBC London instead!

PS, we don't have the Conservatives up here in Scotland, they're not allowed to use that name for their party!

[m8internet]

To make it worse, the Scottish diddler-fiddler has interfered so that the BBC TV coverage of the media debate may not be shown on BBC Scotland
Just as well I am on Virgin Media, as I can watch BBC London instead!
Doesn't apply now, the SNP court case has been rejected

[Mellijelli]

m8internet, correct me if im wrong but does Wales, Scotland and Ireland all have their own government? yet they all fall under the UK or British Isles, is that right?


To make it worse, the Scottish diddler-fiddler has interfered so that the BBC TV coverage of the media debate may not be shown on BBC Scotland
Just as well I am on Virgin Media, as I can watch BBC London instead

lol before i moved i had all of 4 TV channels to watch now i have around 352 in total as we have DSTV (Satellite Television), it leaves me a bit boggled as to which channels i want to watch at night IF i do watch tv, but i tend to stick to thinks like cooking shows like Olivers Twist, Nigella and The F word or even home improvement or reality, recently i discovered the BBC E and BBC K channels and they have quite a variety of good programmes which i enjoy watching, im not too worried about politics it can get a bit much but its good to keep up with whats going on around you and in the rest of the world.

[m8internet]

does Wales, Scotland and Ireland all have their own government? yet they all fall under the UK or British Isles, is that right?
The UK comes under central government, based at Westminster
This handles matters of state (such as defence, customs, etc) for England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales

Scotland has its own parliament
This handles matters of Scotland (such as education, transport, etc)

Wales was next to have its own parliament
However, this does not include transport

Ireland is a different country (not to be confused with Northern Ireland)

[Dark Phoenyx]

m8internet, so even if Ireland is its own country, northern Ireland isnt? how does that work if i may ask? arent both still in ireland?

[Mellijelli]

It probably works on border posts or something ?

[m8internet]

so even if Ireland is its own country, northern Ireland isnt? how does that work if i may ask? arent both still in ireland?
Don't even get me started on this one!
Take a look at a map, that shows the borders

Northern Ireland is under the control of the UK government, formarly since 1921 (prior to that under the jurisdiction of Ulster)
The southern part is under the control of the Irish government, often known as Eire

The troubles in "Ireland" all come about from this division, resulting in extreme violence from the 1960s onwards
Furthermore, some people in Ireland believe they still own and have the rights to Ulster
By tradition Ireland is catholic and Northern Ireland is protestant
However both countries are mixed
When driving through "Ireland" it is very clear which area is which, by the flags in the area
Put the two issues together, a recipe for disaster

As such Ireland is a separate country, with it's capital city in Dublin
There used to be border posts before the EU did away with borders
The Irish government did away with its border posts, however the UK government retained its due to the continued violence at the time
The UK borders were only recently removed, due to the ceasation of violence

Having visited both Northern Ireland and Ireland, it is clear the issues will never go away
However, carrying a Scotland flag on my car and having a Scotland accent has great advantages
Compare that to carrying an England flag and/or having an English accent and the attitude from some people is very obvious (some work colleagues have even commented to me, "What is going on here?")

Get down to the "old" part of Ireland, typically south and southwest, then it is traditionally old world, and quite frighteningly so!
If you want a job done, its not so much today, but WHICH day!

[Mellijelli]

:D I have a bit of both Scottish and Irish blood running through my veins, Scottish on my dads side and Irish on my moms, my maiden name is a bit of a puzzle to me.

Iv been told its Scottish obviously with my great great grandmother being Scottish but apparently somewhere along the line my ancestors spelt the surname wrong on some documents and it went from Mappin to Mapham, apparently someone way back forgot how to spell :D.

My family had a few diamond mines a long time back but gambled away some of the deeds to them because of drink???? and thats how the name mix up happened also, or so i believe over some or other sillyness.

There is a place in London called Mappin and Web one of London's leading jewellers who deal in diamonds and have been going since 1935, those too are relatives of mine.

Some family members have for a while been doing a complete family history on the Mapham/Mappin family which i though was wonderful, they have traced family members back to the early 18th century and are still busy delving deeper. Iv not come across many Maphams in my day and all those that i have are in some way related to me.

Anyway m8internet i might have a little advantage being both Scottish and Irish blooded what do you think?

[m8internet]

i might have a little advantage being both Scottish and Irish blooded what do you think?
It makes no difference, unless you might be considering playing for the Scotland football team!

We have managed to trace our family tree back to 17xx
However, we opened a massive skeleton in the cupboard by doing so and we had to stop as it might have caused a religious issue in the current family
It was also agreed to remove the information from the family tree that is available to other members of family on request, although the skeleton remains on there (simply marked as that!)
We've then had a few people ask what that means, and when we give them the details they understand why the details of that person have been removed

I then started on my side of the family
However, my attempts failed quite early on as the church in Birmingham where several of the records are kept was bombed in BOTH world wars!
I really do think someone is trying to tell me something...

[Dark Phoenyx]

ok hang on.... trying to wrap my brain around this one. :D

I have always heard of the problems between Catholic Irish and Protestant Irish, but i did not know that the two areas were separate countries. wow.

Could the bad feelings they have toward the brittish have anything to do with the fact that they, the scots and the welsh were once (or still are) of celtic origin? and the battles that came with the brittish monarchies?

lol its a silly question, but it was the first thought that sprang to mind.

[m8internet]

Yes and no...
The Northern Irish get on well with the Scots and Welsh
The Irish get on well with the Scots and Welsh

It's quite similar to the duality with Spain and France

The main issue in Northern Ireland was building that wall to separate Catholics and Protestants, that just lit the paper!
Not pointing any elbows, but I find it an unusual coincidence that the two people that were allegeldy never responsible for this and not connected with any paramilitary organisations are now old crumblies, MPs, and the violence has ceased (well, reduced); clearly they learnt their lesson that violence gets you nowhere, diplomacy is better
A lot of the barriers have since been removed (although many still exist)

Just to confuse matters, you get Catholics and Protestants in both countries
The main difference is they CLEARLY show their allegance, through their use of national banners
In general the Catholics want a united Ireland (ie the removal of Britain from Northern Ireland) and the Protestants want to remain part of Britain

[Mellijelli]

Religious wars are almost always very confusing and strange to me as God fearing people should be peaceful dont you think? Its all the different opinions that make it so involved and a heavy discussion point.

[m8internet]

As soon as religions get involved in politics, violence is the usual outcome
We could list so many conflicts and wars which have come about when both have been mixed
Ironically, the majority of these were in the last century
Some are already rumbling into this century

[Dark Phoenyx]

That i can believe. Ive read abt so many. Its strange that everything gets so intertwined. politics and religion mainly. It makes one wonder why people cant keep the two separate. but i guess that would be asking for miracles.

[SallyA]

Wow what an interesting read this was! I loved it!

I think i am one of the few who will never be able to travce my origins!I am from a mixed race back ground and my mother was adopted in the 60's! I am guessing you can see the potential problem there! I wish I could find it all out though :rolleyes:

[Dark Phoenyx]

I know that i have Celtic ancestors, and i traced my mothers family to 3 brothers that came to SA with the hugenots. Thats about it, I dont have any specific details, as i dont have anywhere close to me that has a way of checking records back as far as that.

[Mellijelli]

:D m8internet, do you think some family members had a hand in the bombings?? hehe. Since we are not family do you think you could elaborate on the skeleton? I guess my skeleton is already out then, my people although filthy rich were drunken gamblers :eek:

[Mellijelli]

SallyA are you trying to trace your mom's family? Maybe you could try finding out where she was adopted from and go from there?

[Dark Phoenyx]

I used a few online family tree sites. They were the ones that hleped me find yhe three hugenot brothers that sparked my family off :D. they could tell me when they arrived, and even the ships they were on, as all 3 brothers didnt arrive at the same time.

They could be quite handy.

[SallyA]

I have tried and found out that her father has passed away in 2004 and am not sure if I should bother the rest of his family? He has a brother that i know of but thats about it so don't even think he got married?

As for her mum - thats been a bit harder - but I kind of gave up when i found out he had passed away - maybe I should give it one more shot?

[Mellijelli]

Give it a go Sally you never know what you could be missing out on, its always good to find lost family iv found a ton of mine all over the globe who id not spoken to in around 20 years :p

[SallyA]

Give it a go Sally you never know what you could be missing out on, its always good to find lost family iv found a ton of mine all over the globe who id not spoken to in around 20 years :p

Yeah I know I should but it may not be so simple as its a case of did they even tell their families about the child they had and so on you know?

[Mellijelli]

That would be a little more complicated yes, but its quite some years back so even so it might just be a pleasant surprise ;)

[shopowner]

You might also open up unwelcome avenues of thought about inheritances if there was ever any money involved.Not sure what the passage of time does to these things legally though.
If you have children now or in the future it might interest them to know more about their ancestry ?